Mtimande’s wife was mokwena then named his son Ngwenya
I disagree.Infact its the other way round.Abo Ngwenya R Nguni’s from KwaZulu around 1500 the where Sotho’s.Sotho’s say they originate from the Nguni’s or What u today called.Most spread around during Shakas time.The ones in Mozambique arrived with Soshaangaa.In Zimbabwe with Mzilikazi in Swaziland Sobhuza etc.Ngwenya’s are originally Zulu’s and spread mostly with the different regimemts and Generals he deployed.Remember Mzilikazi passed via lesotho before he settled in Gauteng and his capital was in Pretoria and after loosing the war with the boers ran to thr now Botswana before settling in Zimbabwe.Moshoeshoe founder of the Sotho Nation s family originated from now KwaZulu .He was part of small Bokoena clan one of them and Bakoena in Lesotho say they originate from the Zulu’s or Nguni’s in Natal BoNgwenya .Moshoeshoe name the nation he was building after his clan namfe Msuthu wich r Nguni’s .The Sotho language was carved out of the Nguni language.Shaka Believed in yhe Ngwenya clan because they where strategies in war.He most of the were involved in a lit battallions shaka sent to conwuer or unite people.Hence most are in Every tribe wich split from the Zulu.Ablot of Nguni’s abo Msuthu wich was one of their ancestors.Alot were placed around mzilikazi but when he lost the way some where left all over.Hece bakwena say ke ditlogolo tsa Matebele.Grand chindren of the Ndebele who r Nguni and originally Zulu.Let us not distort history and Facts knowing very well alot of Zulu’s spread all over.Hence the saying Bambolunye one rib and they knew that they will seperate during war orbecause Shaka wa sending regiments toconquer and build a united nation.Ngwenya People r from Zululand as in Most or let me say all are Nguni some stayed with other tribes confusing their ancestral line
Ngibingelele bonke oNgwenya, mina ngiyiNgwenya ephuma kwelikaMzilikazi laphayana eZimbabwe. Ngithanda ukuthi ngiphawule kanje bafowethu Nina enizithakazela ngoMntimandze, sengathi aniwazi umlando wakini ngokuphelele. Abantu bakwaNgwenya, Madonsela, Shongwe, Kunene badatshulwa sabeSotho-Tswana, bonke bangaBakoena/Bakwena ngendabuko. Indaba iqala Ngo Kgosi/iNkosi Kwena owayezalwa nguMolapo(onguyena owazala isizwe sabeTswana). UKwena lona nguye ke owzala isibongo sakwaMokoena/Mkwena nesalwaNgwenya. Phakathi ne century 1500 kucatshangelwa ukuthi kulapho izwe labaKwena lachitheka khona abaKwena bagcwala iSouthern Africa. Kuthiwa abanye bachitheka baya eLesotho, Free State province, North-West and Gauteng provinces of SA, kwathi abanye balubangisa kwelikaNgwane eSwazini. Labo ke, yilabo bafika baziguqula isibongo babangoNgwenya ukuze bazizwe bamukelekile. Kulapho ke kwavela khona uMntimande owayiqhawe elikhulu kwelikaNgwane. Izukulwane zikaMntimande zasala sezizithakazela ngegama lakhe uMntimande lona. Bakhona njalo abaMntimande abasuka eSwazini behamba noNyamazana wakwaNgwane bayowela eZimbabwe. Bakhoba njalo abakwaNgwenya eZimbabwe ababuthwa nguMzilikazi wakwaKhumalo eSA naseBotswana wahamba nabo eZimbabwe. Labo ke ngekhathi bedudulwa nguMzilikazi bebengabeTswana nabeSuthu, bagcina nabo begucula isibongo Sabo sakwaMkoena Baba ngoNgwenya. Labo ke uma bezithakazela abambizi uMntimande ngobe abazange bamazi. Bona babiza uS’tshela, okuyilona qhawe labo elabamba iqhaza elikhulu esizweni sikaMzilikazi. In conclusion, bonke abakwaNgwenya, Kunene, Madonsela, Shongwe, Mokoena/Mkwena basasengabantu banye labo.
I’m Ngwenya smangele & my home town is Jozini ..I love to know about my surname like ukzalana kwabakaNgwenya ..& in past weeks before I asked my Granny that actually where are Ngwenyas originated & she told me that abokhokho they were firstly abesuthu “Mokoena” & they went to Mozambique then back to S.A ..so I wanna know this vividly ..so that I can also share this with the next coming generation …
&there is this part we say thina mesithakazela “NGWENYA THUN’SWAYO MAGEZA NGOBISI ABANYE BAGEZA NGAMANZI MFULA KAWUWELWA UWELWA ZINKONJANE ZONA EZIPHAPHA PHEZULU BHAMBOLUNYE ZINGAZE ZIBE MBILI IFUZE EKHAYA KONINA” Thank You for paying attention♡
